Shiomitsu Sensei let them know very quickly that it was not a term that was used in a Wado Ryu Dojo. Tuide is joint manipulation etc. Ooura is a Motobu Ryu style Karate sensei. Hello. thus for all those raised in japanese competitive sporting (2)I made some comments based on my understanding of Okinawan vs. Japanese karate. Blocks, punches, kicks and strikes as well as stances; Kata (set forms): A variety of a set pattern of moves to demonstrate the perfection and transition of forms. Yet at the same time, in contrast to many others, I believe similar to you that the Shotokan karate, done well to proper standards, can be highly effective. The one that leaps out to me is the lock applied to his opponent's right elbow, although there may be something going on with their knees too. Thanks to all authors for creating a page that has been read 15,731 times. So, Okinawan karate is lots more mental, moral and spiritual than Japanese karate, which is lots material, Nakayama turned Japanese karate into a sport, a competition, but sensei Gichin Funakoshi would never allow karate to become a sport, as long as he lived. No. Please clickherefor a list of Goju-ryu dojos we offer training at. This drill provides a system to practice basic offensive and defensive techniques while moving through the stances utilized in Kata. The story of karate begins on Okinawa, the largest of the Ryukyu Islands. There are MANY differences between Okinawan and Japanese Karate. In general, you get good at what you practice. This is actually funny to me. As they progress, more natural stances are employed. As to bunkai. Your weight is 90% on the back leg and 10% on the front foot. But to say that we change our technique to teach to mass classes is not the case, not for our Dojo anyway. Our style of Jujutsu stressed Atemi Waza. "Okinawa is approximately 6 miles wide and only about 70 miles long" ("A Brief History of Traditional Karate"). E.g Funakoshi was trying to spread an "alien" practice to mainland Japan at a time when Okinawan culture was frowned upon. Partial or total reproduction or republication is strictly forbidden. Okinawans still consider themselves Okinawans. In some Chinese arts, this was done for that reason, but in many cases it was done for grappling applications. IMO, I think there is great benefit to incorporating the comparative information into one's karate training regimen. We don't use these at all. Unsubscribe? Sorry to tell the truth . My point is comparisons like this one are generally made by someone who knows their style very well and has little concept of the other system. Some visited local Cubs, trained & made friendships. I'm too old already, but even though I'm 71, I wish some day I'll get to live in Okinawa and learn their karate before I die. I feel every true martial art is a unique entity unto itself. Can you possibly do a primer on the weapons you mentioned in this article? An interchange of ideas provokes a learning environment. //-->. really? Say you learn that a certain technique is actually an arm bar into an arm break. Jujutsu was the unarmed defense of the Samurai and there are many movements in Jujutsu that come from sword movements. Jesse, But these ones in particular I disagree with and wanted to share my thoughts. Thank you. by the* Thank you for reading! Raise one leg and place its ankle behind the knee of the standing leg. As far as I'm concerned all styles of Karate are "valid". Stances were very high and light, btw, as shown in #1. Master Eiichi Sensei founded this academy. Noth'n wrong with a little jostl'n over which style is better. They understood more the relaxed application and vital structural functionality of the body. I enjoyed reading this article, I did practice Ominawan Karate as a young man, you brought many good memories to me. To say that all are equal is just ludicrous. He came back to his homeland and taught the Chinese kung-Fu to the karateka of Okinawa and Japan. I have heard and read that there are hundreds of Karate dojos in Okinawa. Thank you! It was fun but I understood that tournament kumite is not the way we fight to defend ourselves. It has mats on floors and paintings on walls to create a karate vibe. Feet are about two shoulder widths apart, feet are open at a 45 angle. Sensei Mabuni never liked the term, thought it was crass and from a time period when karate was seen as macho and militaristic, rising from over zealous college karate clubshe often corrected students asking they acknowledge with "hai" instead of "issue.". Second exercise is about how to cover from kicking, stomping and punching when you are on the ground. It was very helpful for me which was a very old karate lover since 1972 . A good example can be seen in Kusanku with the drop after the one-legged turn (or jump, in some styles), but there is another drop into a low stance in some versions. Seisan, 5. I trained in Wado-ryu karate for many years, graded to 1st Kyu level in Shotokan, and within the past 7 years have practised and achieved 1st Dan a classical form of Okinawan karate, called Ko-Do Ryu, which incorporates kata and bunkai from Goju-ryu, uechi-ryu,shito-ryu and other Okinawan originated styles. Ganbatte. Going through motions in the air imagining you're breaking someone's arm isn't going to cut it. In the end, its about doing what you love whether its Okinawan or Japanese. Now you got me there we don't do weapons. Hi Jesse. To me, club or style is good if the bunkai practiced meets the objective, and the objective should be towards effective defense against aggression on the street like the old masters said. Mike..you got me :) I would love to see you or some one else write this same article but with a more biased lean towards Japanese Karate. While Japanese Karate approaches combatfrom a long distance range, Okinawan Karate prefers a close range. |, What is Kime? He has also just delivered a rather devastating blow to the inside of the opponent's left arm at the inside of the elbow and locked it. I also believe that the traditional karate styles, including Wado Ryu, are superior to the conventional training we see in MMA. They are ancientterms of the Okinawan language. I am not complaining about the article though, it was interesting reading, but not accurate. Mmmm, may have to unsubscribe, I just can't compete with the better styles :). Great comment Rob. I attended classes in a walk up second story dojo maybe 800 sq ft. No one spoke English, it was so hot, I could feel every little grit of sand and so much more. Goju-ryu () is one of the main traditional style of Okinawan Karate, featuring a combination of hard and soft techniques. Fighting stances like han zenkutsu dachi . No. "* I do JKA Shotokan (i.e., Japanese Karate) and allow me to share the following: Home > Okinawa karate > Styles of Okinawan Karate. I first learned the 'how' before I learned the 'why'. Feet facing outwards at 45. Perhaps you should have included Okinawan Flag before Japanese Occupation' even autonomous Symbol. But in Okinawa, you find them in every corner of the dojo. The body should be squarely forward unless a half-turn han-mi is applied. By the way what s your karate style? It's not a Sport its a lifestyle. | In traditional karate, IMO the WHY is imperative, whether emphasized or not. I started out in japanese karate and thought that was the one and only karate. 1. Whoever decided to remove weapons from Shotokan should be given a stern rebuke. Though I havent earned my Black Belt yet, I am deeply passionate about my training. I spent time with Kenzo Mabuni, youngest son of Kenwa Mabuni and he explained the origin of, "ouss" which you are correct in stating is not used in Okinawa dojos..Ouss is a derived from the Japanese formal ending you find in many words.originally students would greet their teachers, "Ohio Gozaimasu" and this became shortened to just the ending of "masu" and morphed into "Ouss." He was such a brilliant teacher that one of his students, Chojun Miyagi, learned from him and developed his own art form named Goju Ryu. The Naha-di system is comprised of nine kata and a philosophy. Karate is a Japanese Martial Art that originated from the island of Okinawa during the 17 th century and, later spreading to mainland Japan and worldwide. *Traditional martial arts are the original martial arts that were created Anko Itosu 4. i think that Yoshitaka (Giko) had changed a lot his father's karateit revolutioned to a more athletic fighting art,..long zenkutsu dachis e.g. I started out practicing shotokan. Congrats!!!! Even the picture that you chose to represent Okinawan weapons predominately features eiku. You can see it after the classic twist/cover/chop in this old video of Yasuharu Makishi Sensei, who was a senior student of Nagamine Shoshin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKURGTA5AmM. 1. There is a VERY distinct difference between what is practiced in India and Okinawa. LONG WINDED OPINIONS / TRUE OR FALSE OR RESPECT? After studying in Okinawa, he moved to Tokyo on mainland Japan and established this style in 1938. The bigger, longer, lower version that you see in more modern Shotokan, not so much. Some of these differences are mentioned down below: Karate in Japan is considered a healthy exercise rather than a self-defensive martial art. If style mattered then in the mess of combat karate and kung-fu could never be made to work. I practice Shotokan-ryu but I'm enamored with Okinawan Karate because of my short stature, hehehe. Sorry, you need to enable JavaScript to visit this website. There are several high ranking Sensei working the class so the quality of the training was never changed because of the size of the class. I like the idea of personal attention from your instructor (sensia ?). At the lower belts, it feels similar to Japanese Karate, but as you start approaching shodan you are more exposed to some dangerous stuff. How the stance (form) then looks is up to you, as long as you reach your goal . 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